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Have you ever met someone and felt like they absolutely, totally get you? That this person makes you feel alive and excited just by saying hello? But …. How is this match possible? Is this unlikely pair really a match made in heaven or do their opposing traits ultimately create more rancor than romance? Both types think and view the world in abstract, and talking about ideas and possibilities, instead of just facts, details and events, is like catnip to these two. Nerdy, yes, but thrilling.
Everyone knows that ENTPs love to talk and share their ideas. This can make their conversations, and their relationship, an exciting meeting of the minds. INFJs like people they can trust deeply and who can really see all their layers. And, although they have a harder time opening up themselves, ENTPs love to look at things in-depth while their confidence provides reassuring moral support.
In other words, these types can really see and support each other. INFJs also love to make people feel better and are authentic, insightful people who can see past a facade—another way they help ENTPs to be themselves. This generates the kind of trust that makes them want to live in the woods if it means they can be together.
The pressure point comes from their conflicting emotional style. They value human connection, trust their intuition and value compassion over material things. The INFJ is interested in the way things affect people, and has the emotional intelligence to deal with those events. They trust logic and practicality and are focused on problem-solving and systems analysis. They may need to set boundaries about how much time they spend socialising versus spending quiet time alone, but they are always helping each other grow.
Where things get explosive is the need for recharge time. This pairing may have some interesting arguments about how to spend their time, especially when either or both of them are under stress. They actually enjoy being alone! The INFJ likes to make plans and establish a routine, keep things organised and finish what they start. They tend to be serious and goal-oriented, while the ENTP is usually happy to let them take the reins while they take a more relaxed approach to life.
They may be different in their P and J preferences, but in this case, opposites attract. These types are capable of making some really smart decisions together, striking a nice balance between getting a decision made and sleeping on it to make sure the decision is the right one.
Problems can develop if the INFJ becomes too controlling and set in their ways, or the ENTP changes plans at the last minute or fails to recognise schedules. Because they both like to think about and discuss ideas, they feel connected to each other and understood in themselves, yet still have endless possibilities for learning, discussion and personal development. No relationship comes without obstacles and challenges to overcome, but if an INFJ and ENTP are lucky enough to meet, they will likely find someone who is a mind mate, a soul mate, and someone who will help them be the best they can be.
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I had a boss who was ENTP and he wanted to debate everything, which isn't good in a leadership position.
I often felt I had to take the lead in policy making, but yet I wasn't getting paid the higher salary. But after awhile, I am utterly exhausted. I feel like I can out-argue them, provide counter-points they didn't even think about, and they get excited. I like that I can debate with them and they don't get offended by my ideas. But they want to continue the discussion forever as they work out stuff.
I seriously can't imagine a romantic relationship with them. So I don't see the real benefit I get from them besides a good dialogue that just isn't enough to sustain a relationship for me. Your covert narcissist tendencies are showing. It's literally their exprience with people they personally know there is nothing narcissist about it. It is incredibly judgmental and completely inconsiderate about they experience of the other persons involved.
It usually is the INFJ that cannot tolerate people having opinions that seem at a first glance to contradict their values and it then usually also is the INFJ that feels the need to convince the other person to see things in the same way. INFJ are constantly on the quest to improve the world in the way they think it should be improved.
They forget that values are subjective and that their good is not neccessarily the good of someone else. I think in INFJ it is an important part of their maturing path that they need to understand that their morals are not neccessarily the right ones although they might FEEL right.
If they don't, they turn into terrible narcissists because they loose empathy in their projections of how an ideal wolrd should look like and by that they forget that people are people. They then act like god-like creatures that have forgotten that hukans are humans and punish and fight them in wrath. He began to tell me that I needed to submit and obey him because God was giving him revelation He entered his own idealistic world so thoroughly that he lost touch with reality and my distinct separateness as a human being.
Really horrifying and traumatic :. I completely agree. I am just dating an ENTP and while I agree on the oversharing and exhausting discussions of some ENTP I have met in the past, I can confirm that, if they have matured a bit and values have developed into a similar direction in both types, it is a pleasure to talk and exchange ideas with them.
Unmet smoothnes and understanding, pure comfort and safety, while still being interesting and fun. But yes, INFJ are terribly prone to being among the worst narcissists. Idealism together with empathy but projections instead of true seeing can turn them into nightmare companions and yes, then they constantly argue and discuss with everyone ENTPs are actually the worst covert narcisists. INFJs may seem like they are narcisisstic, but in reality the INFJ is the one that can't help but mold into the personality type that they are dealing with.
Makes sense for dealing with ENTPs then Interesting insight I'm married to an ENTP and you're right; they can definitely come across as being unempathtic but I think it's more because they are more thinkers rather than feelers and value logic more than emotions so when they talk, they don't really think about what they are saying in terms of emotions-- I like to call it "word vomit".
But I don't think they're cold, naturally-- otherwise they couldn't keep friendships and they are HUGE in that department. Also, if you're extremely introverted and they're extremely extroverted-- that could be a deal breaker. Luckily, I'm married to someone who has a balance in this department-- he's almost an introvert on the scale and this helps us have a healthy middle ground. Everything in this match is pretty accurate for us. We are pretty crazy about each other lol.
ENTPs are rarely "hugely" extroverted. They are the most introverted of the extroverts and in a lot of cases can come across more introverted than an INFJ. People don't understand introversion and extroversion. Somehow people think being extroverted means you're loud and want to party when it's just a point of view. Introverted people exist inside themselves like a turtle living in a shell. INFJs use introverted thinking and are therfore capable of rational and are the most rational of Feeler types, using Ti. This is why they match well with xNTPs, this does not mean that all of us should have a connection because of MBTI that is unreasonable.
ENTPs are capable of being irrational and non-factual about issues they're debating, that's not to say that they are not smart but it's to validate the fact that they're only human. In addition, it's also wrong of people to assume ENTPs to be callous people because they have inferior Fe that can develop well, and be compassionate. I just want to point out that while yes, we ENTPs can be irrational and non-factual about issues we're debating, we are very much aware of it when we do.
At least, I am. I do it intentionally from time to time in order to experience what it feels like to be silly. It's boring to make sense all of the time. Variety is the spice of life! Therefore, we are rationally debating irrationally. Or irrationally debating rationally.
There's an interesting paradox for you! Are we human or not? What do you mean by "not being able of getting ot of our he"? Is solipsism generally a "I" driven characteristic? Do you think that I-types naturally see the world less for what it is but more in a way that is resulting from the projections of their own ideas? It is a really interesting relation and maybe explains why introverts turn narcissist so easily. My personal experience is that the more difficult it is for people to understand that other human beings motivations can be different from their own motivations the less empathic they are the more different the other person is.
I'm an INFJ and my ificant other is an ENTP, sometimes he can come across as having a lack of empathy but it's more usually due to him coming up with ways to fix the problem than feel sorry for someone about it. He's a do'er and a fixer while I waddle around feeling bad and sorry and being emotional support.
It works out wonderfully. He knows how to get me out of my head, he can seem narcissistic to people who don't know better, as for me, my confidence is lacking, so no narcisissm here. I'm percent extraverted entp. My best relationships intj or infj.
Having heard these complaints through out life, one can make a constant effort to recognize and explain, apologize. Let someone know upfront your downfalls. Which means I end up doing more listening than talking, but as long as I get to say what I want to say, and know that I am heard, that's okay.
But we have a good connection. I don't know anyone like him, but in the best possible way. It's not about connection with everyone for INFJs, because of Fe we are decent towards people and care about giving everyone a good exprience. If we meet and get along that does not mean the INFJ is crazy about you, it's just the way we are; friendly and distant but unbothered about the fact if we have a connection with someone or not, because mostly that's a Myth about INFJs sometimes most people annoy us, and we wouldn't want to be around anyone at all let alone the ENTP.
But ENTP'ers are really good at growth As opposed to INTJ we are good at handling critisism as long as we feel that it's coming from a good place from someone who cares for us and not someone who wants to put us down.
And I would be happy spending the rest of my life figuring out every layer of them I have noticed over the years that this "ideal" compatibility largely comes down to how healthy and growth driven the INFJ is. ENTPs need somebody who is willing to grow with them and take personal responsibility for themselves. Many immature or unhealthy INFJs are simply not willing to do this. ENTPs are sometimes blunt and harsh but they are generally willing to tone things down and change if their behaviour hurts someone they care about.
A "fixed" mindset INFJ is not. This is where the problem tends to lie. Forever stuck in the "victim mentality" these types of INFJs will never accept any wrongdoing on their part and will always shift blame to the other partner. I'm not necessarily even referring to ENTPs here but to any other type they are partnered with. I have always felt that most INFJs will struggle with long-term relationships far more than any other type.
ENTPs generally do not have this problem. Their problem is that they feel stifled and bored with their partners and therefore run for the hills to embrace their freedom. We are a never ending labyrinth for them and so they do not get bored. This is why, at our best, we are perfect for them. But, we need to allow them to be free in the same way we need to be allowed to be alone.
The lesson to take home if you're an INFJ is that you need to start owning your shit. Stop viewing yourself as a perpetual victim of the world no matter how bad things have been for you and start working and changing yourselves. The world is not going to "accept you for who you are" and your romantic partners will not stick with you if they feel they are constantly walking on eggshells with you. Everything you need for yourselves can be found in the ENTP.
Similarly, everything the ENTP needs can be found in you if you are healthy that is. When the INFJ starts to take ownership for their own faults and makes a strong and decisive commitment to change, that's when they are ready for the ENTP.
At this point the pair is simply unstoppable and both parties will have the understanding and relationship they desire.Infj dating entp
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